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		<title>by: Stanford Matthews</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/auto-industry-bailout-plot-thickens/#comment-19556</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>From Right Voices, \'pixie dust\', that\'s a good one. :-)

In light of all the noise about the auto industry bailout debate more than this post\'s report on Merkel and others obsessing over US taxpayer subsidies of the auto industry should be included.  The link to Michelle Malkin and the link from Right Voices make that clear.

While it was already too late for the auto industry a post here in early 2007 featured the dismal performance of the American auto industry and the writing on the wall announcing impending doom if things didn\'t change quickly.  As far back as the eighties and Ford\'s debut of the Probe sent a signal that major events were taking place. If memory serves, Ford\'s partnership with Mazda on the Probe included Ford\'s assistance to Mazda for setting up shop in the US.  That may have been the beginning of the end.

Everyone knows auto execs caved to organized labor and allowed all sorts of concessions for expediency and now it\'s time to pay the piper and they can\'t.  There was writing on the walls for labor also but all one heard was a loud whining sound and it wasn\'t coming from automobile engines.  Workers were angry that some of their jobs would be taken over by robotic machines like in welding.  There are stories of people who get payed for not even showing up to work but remaining on the employee roster.  If you are looking to cast blame it\'s all over the industry on both sides of the management/labor issues.  And it didn\'t help that government ignored the need to move away from fossil fuels with the unheeded warning of the earlier so-called oil crisis phenonmenon in the seventies.  Thirty years or more of inaction on alternative energy and all they could do is paint the auto industry as the bad guys for not drastically increasing the mpg of vehicles coming outta Detroit and elsewhere.  And of course the general public didn\'t need much incentive to continue the love affair with cars and other vehicles.  Bigger, faster, heavier, with all the modern conveniences and who cares if they get lousy gas mileage?  Gas is cheap, right?  Just the fact that car loans went from a typical three year payoff to six years or more should be some kind of clue we couldn\'t afford the love affair anymore.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Right Voices, \&#8217;pixie dust\&#8217;, that\&#8217;s a good one. <img src='http://morewhat.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In light of all the noise about the auto industry bailout debate more than this post\&#8217;s report on Merkel and others obsessing over US taxpayer subsidies of the auto industry should be included.  The link to Michelle Malkin and the link from Right Voices make that clear.</p>
<p>While it was already too late for the auto industry a post here in early 2007 featured the dismal performance of the American auto industry and the writing on the wall announcing impending doom if things didn\&#8217;t change quickly.  As far back as the eighties and Ford\&#8217;s debut of the Probe sent a signal that major events were taking place. If memory serves, Ford\&#8217;s partnership with Mazda on the Probe included Ford\&#8217;s assistance to Mazda for setting up shop in the US.  That may have been the beginning of the end.</p>
<p>Everyone knows auto execs caved to organized labor and allowed all sorts of concessions for expediency and now it\&#8217;s time to pay the piper and they can\&#8217;t.  There was writing on the walls for labor also but all one heard was a loud whining sound and it wasn\&#8217;t coming from automobile engines.  Workers were angry that some of their jobs would be taken over by robotic machines like in welding.  There are stories of people who get payed for not even showing up to work but remaining on the employee roster.  If you are looking to cast blame it\&#8217;s all over the industry on both sides of the management/labor issues.  And it didn\&#8217;t help that government ignored the need to move away from fossil fuels with the unheeded warning of the earlier so-called oil crisis phenonmenon in the seventies.  Thirty years or more of inaction on alternative energy and all they could do is paint the auto industry as the bad guys for not drastically increasing the mpg of vehicles coming outta Detroit and elsewhere.  And of course the general public didn\&#8217;t need much incentive to continue the love affair with cars and other vehicles.  Bigger, faster, heavier, with all the modern conveniences and who cares if they get lousy gas mileage?  Gas is cheap, right?  Just the fact that car loans went from a typical three year payoff to six years or more should be some kind of clue we couldn\&#8217;t afford the love affair anymore.</p>
<p>So now what? 
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		<title>by: Rep. Joe Knollenberg(R-MI): We Aren&#8217;t Using Taxpayer Money For Bailouts, Tinkerbell Sprinkled Pixie Dust &#124; Right Voices</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/auto-industry-bailout-plot-thickens/#comment-19555</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Stanford Matthews</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/auto-industry-bailout-plot-thickens/#comment-19551</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ok Perri, now you made this aviation fan recall the Skunkworks, Kelly Johnson and the SR-71.  Absolutely my favorite aircraft although there are others....many others.  But I shouldn't move the discussion of this post to things aviation I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Perri, now you made this aviation fan recall the Skunkworks, Kelly Johnson and the SR-71.  Absolutely my favorite aircraft although there are others&#8230;.many others.  But I shouldn&#8217;t move the discussion of this post to things aviation I suppose.
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		<title>by: Perri Nelson</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/auto-industry-bailout-plot-thickens/#comment-19546</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nope, no Boeing bias here... maybe some Lockheed bias, but that's familial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, no Boeing bias here&#8230; maybe some Lockheed bias, but that&#8217;s familial.
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		<title>by: Stanford Matthews</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/auto-industry-bailout-plot-thickens/#comment-19543</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Maggie,
My take on most things political especially summits is there primary purpose is for photo ops to soothe the uninformed segment of the population and secondly mindless and meaningless soundbites as fodder for the MSM and finally an opportunity for international backroom deals and arm twisting with carrots and sticks as disgusting as the homeland version of each attending country's own politics.

What can they do at a 'summit' that they cannot do with available technology for video conferencing or even old fashioned conference calls?  The answer is the intimidation available with a face to face, group photo ops and not having to explain to the MSM why a high level private meeting took place.

Hey Angel, oops, missed the thanks for stoppin' in part and the same goes for you Maggie, thanks all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie,<br />
My take on most things political especially summits is there primary purpose is for photo ops to soothe the uninformed segment of the population and secondly mindless and meaningless soundbites as fodder for the MSM and finally an opportunity for international backroom deals and arm twisting with carrots and sticks as disgusting as the homeland version of each attending country&#8217;s own politics.</p>
<p>What can they do at a &#8217;summit&#8217; that they cannot do with available technology for video conferencing or even old fashioned conference calls?  The answer is the intimidation available with a face to face, group photo ops and not having to explain to the MSM why a high level private meeting took place.</p>
<p>Hey Angel, oops, missed the thanks for stoppin&#8217; in part and the same goes for you Maggie, thanks all.
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		<title>by: Stanford Matthews</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/auto-industry-bailout-plot-thickens/#comment-19542</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As for the commie thing Angel, I'm not crazy about borsch as I don't favor beets, but the vodka will be ok, long as it's Stoli. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the commie thing Angel, I&#8217;m not crazy about borsch as I don&#8217;t favor beets, but the vodka will be ok, long as it&#8217;s Stoli. <img src='http://morewhat.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Stanford Matthews</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/auto-industry-bailout-plot-thickens/#comment-19541</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Based on your locale Perri, do I detect a little Boeing bias?  Just kidding.  I'm a pilot and I DO HAVE A BOEING BIAS, at least since I was introduced to the B-17.

I luv when the EU hints at a dislike for gov't subsidies, oh, excuse me, US gov't subsidies.

Thanks for stoppin' in, Perri, and the commentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on your locale Perri, do I detect a little Boeing bias?  Just kidding.  I&#8217;m a pilot and I DO HAVE A BOEING BIAS, at least since I was introduced to the B-17.</p>
<p>I luv when the EU hints at a dislike for gov&#8217;t subsidies, oh, excuse me, US gov&#8217;t subsidies.</p>
<p>Thanks for stoppin&#8217; in, Perri, and the commentary.
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		<title>by: Maggie Thornton</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/auto-industry-bailout-plot-thickens/#comment-19540</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;German Chancellor Angela Merkel says she wants to make sure aid to the U.S. auto industry will not put Europe’s own auto companies at a competitive disadvantage.&quot;

Is Merkel talking about the possible U.S. aid to U.S. autoworkers???? If so, aren't we honored to have her input??? phtttt

If there was any hope of these Summits proving productive, they would have rolled up their sleeves and stayed with it until the &quot;bright light&quot; came on. Oh, I forgot, only underlings do that.

I really enjoyed your intro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;German Chancellor Angela Merkel says she wants to make sure aid to the U.S. auto industry will not put Europe’s own auto companies at a competitive disadvantage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is Merkel talking about the possible U.S. aid to U.S. autoworkers???? If so, aren&#8217;t we honored to have her input??? phtttt</p>
<p>If there was any hope of these Summits proving productive, they would have rolled up their sleeves and stayed with it until the &#8220;bright light&#8221; came on. Oh, I forgot, only underlings do that.</p>
<p>I really enjoyed your intro.
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		<title>by: Angel</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/auto-industry-bailout-plot-thickens/#comment-19538</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>so true ..welcome to communism ala Obama.........the red flag wave of da future! :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so true ..welcome to communism ala Obama&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;the red flag wave of da future! <img src='http://morewhat.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Perri Nelson</title>
		<link>http://morewhat.com/wordpress/auto-industry-bailout-plot-thickens/#comment-19537</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So France and Germany are worried about the possibility of the U.S. Government subsidizing the U.S. auto industry but they have no problem with government subsidies for Airbus?

Pot -- meet Kettle. You're both black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So France and Germany are worried about the possibility of the U.S. Government subsidizing the U.S. auto industry but they have no problem with government subsidies for Airbus?</p>
<p>Pot &#8212; meet Kettle. You&#8217;re both black.
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